What if your body isn’t breaking down, it’s trying to get your attention?
SUMMARY:
Here’s what we are not being told about why we suffer more today with chronic health symptoms than ever before!
Today’s guest is bringing a perspective that most people don’t even realize they’re missing, and that’s the visceral relationship that exists between the emotional being and the physical one.
Dr. Shireen Fernandez is the founder of Quantum Harmonic Wellness, a physician-led practice that bridges internal medicine, neurology, and integrative healing, combining science, sound, and whole-person care.
We’re talking about healing in a way that doesn’t just manage symptoms, but heals at the source, transforming the quality of how we live and experience life.
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Raj Girn: Oh my gosh, am I thrilled to have you on my show, my dear Kindred. I mean, welcome to Transform your Confidence with Raj Girn. That’s me, of course. And thank you for agreeing to be on to have what I absolutely know is going to be a soul opening discovery into optimizing our well-being through marrying traditional and modern medicine philosophies. We have spoken about these things for so many decades.
I just wanna, before I let Shireen speak, I want to give you guys a bit of context. So Shireen and I have known each other for, I would say, the past 18 odd years or so, but I’ve never had the opportunity to interview her formally like this. But we have spoken many, many times about our shared philosophy of life. We’ve tugged at a lot of thoughts where maybe we haven’t agreed with each other either.
But because we have so much respect for each other and the fact that we know that as individuals, we do the work and that. So wherever we come from with the value systems and the philosophies that we believe in, those that are shared, those that maybe we have a different perspective on, even though there’s not many of those, we have deep respect for each other.
So, I want to just set that context a little bit. You guys are off the top, I already shared a little bit about what this episode is gonna be about, why Shireen is the perfect person to talk about this. So I just want to say, hello, Dr. Shireen Fernandez, my darling kindred. Thank you for agreeing to be on my show.
Dr. Shireen Fernandez: Oh, my goodness. Thank you so much, Raj. And it’s such an honor and pleasure to be finally on here with you on this end of the screen. I mean, I’ve seen you do amazing work with your podcast and showcase and highlight so many amazing people in the community doing amazing things. And I truly deeply value your show. I always have, but yes, What a privilege to finally be able to share my journey and my story on your amazing podcast.
So, I mean, it’s “Transforming your confidence”. I mean what an amazing title, what an amazing show you have going on. And honestly, I’m beyond thrilled to be here today to talk to you about all the amazing things that’s going on in my world and to share with you and your community.
Oh my God, so I feel that we need a bit of a backstory, a bit of an origin story here, Shireen. So for context, for my community here, you’ve trained in internal medicine and neurology, two of the most rigorous evidence-based disciplines, which is why it’s so interesting that you glean towards the ancient philosophies and meld the two.
I couldn’t think of someone better to have this conversation with because on one side you have people who come from the traditional medicine, the modern medicine space, and then you have other people that come from the ancient philosophies.
Very rarely do you have someone that is educated deeply in both. So what I want to ask is, what first made you question whether conventional medicine alone was enough. Can we kind of go there?
So, I feel like conventional medicine is very, as we know, very symptom-based, right? So, it’s great at treating emergency conditions. It’s great for surgeries, for injuries, that type of stuff that goes on in our life. But I feel the majority of people, including probably you and I, have life happen to us where we know there’s stress from working, there is stress from family, the burnout happens, environmental factors that we cannot control.
So, all of these things accumulate over time, and trigger like this chronic response of inflammation in our body, which actually turns into believe it or not, diseases, right. And I just felt that there’s so many cases like diabetes, with blood pressure, even with a lot of mental conditions. It’s a lot of chronic based. And I don’t personally believe that traditional medicine really handles that the best way that we know, because once again, we’re treating symptoms. So, a lot of symptoms that come from chronic diseases are something that we see. But there’s a whole lot going on beyond that.
So, I always was wondering and always questioned like, what about the root cause, right? Like what triggered this? And sometimes it’s not even something that we’re dealing with in our life right now. It could be something that happened maybe when we were a child, you know, growing up. There could have been triggers that were never addressed, kind of shrugged under the rug. And that in turn… I learned it becomes a chronic disease and manifests later on in life as a chronic disease.
So, for me, it was like, okay, this is great. I love medicine. I love everything about it. We have great research happening ongoing that we’re always discovering new medicine to treat diseases and with neurology, I mean the brain. And I was also a psych major to me, like that whole world is tremendously fascinating. And then it was just bridge the gap between what is the missing link? Like there has to be something missing here where chronic disease, if you look at it, it’s, as a country or even in the world, it is not something that’s going away or decreasing. In fact, it is the opposite.
The cases are increasing tremendously. So, I was just looking out for my own curiosity. What’s out there? What can we find? And as you know, like, Ayurveda—Sound healing. It’s been around for a long, long time. When I started looking into it I found way back when they had churches that had bells that were I think created or made a certain way. It’s all about resonance that you know when you strike the bell it created or emanated this beautiful frequency. Even if you go to a church I think the way the churches are built It’s meant for that.
But I feel, somewhere along the way that the whole tradition, the whole meaning behind it kind of got lost. And I was very intrigued and amazed to find out like, Oh, my gosh, that could be the missing link. Like, our body is very smart. It’s inherently smart. So, I feel like the body knows how to heal itself. When you put it in the right environment, you make it feel safe. And there are a lot of ways to do it without just a pill or you know, what’s the next new treatment out there.
A lot of stuff begins with us. And I feel like if people were taught how to incorporate little things in your life, like daily slight modifications, that we in turn can be our own masters of healing, just if we knew how to set the right stage for it.
We’re talking about healing in a way that doesn’t just manage symptoms, but heals at the source.
Oh my gosh, just you’ve said so much there that I want to be able to unpack as we chat through this. But one thing that really came up was just the tonality around healing. The fact that music we know is healing, feeling within us, right? And that feeling is also biological . . . positive effects, right? Like you talked about the tonality with bells, and that’s a whole other podcast. If we get into why they were removed, who removed them, we’ll have to have that discussion.
But what I want to talk about, and again, that was more of a controlling mechanism, and we know this, and a sheep mentality that needed to be created by those. Know, that is in those positions. But I don’t want to digress from that and I want to ask you because I feel this will be a question that people who aren’t familiar with a lot of what you said, may want some answers to.
So let me ask you a couple of specifics on what you just talked about here. The first thing that comes to mind for me is, was there a specific patient moment or a personal moment or maybe a combination of both? Or something that you saw in a loved one where you realized we’re treating symptoms, like you said, but we’re missing something deeper that’s going on. And what was that you felt was missing that is deeper? Can we start there?
Even though that sounds like a simple question, it’s a very loaded question. Yes. To answer your question, I wanna say probably all of the above. I’ve definitely seen patients during my training, a loved one in my life going through the traditional ways of going to the hospital, getting admitted there and going into the protocols of what they thought was probably best for her. It was actually my grandmother, but she was so afraid of hospitals and in her mind, like your mind is so powerful that she just always knew that if I ever got admitted, like that would be the end of her, right?
And we always talked her out of it. And I saw it. I saw it as soon as she was admitted and she went into that role playing. It was, that was it for her. So, your mind shuts off and I don’t think that anything can overcome it. Where I feel like if, if I had the modalities or the information and expertise that I have now, could I have done things differently for her where she could have had more relaxation, maybe at home where it was in her environment, where that was her safe space, where she wasn’t poked and poked all the time and you had blood tests and had pegged, it was just not her lifestyle or way of living. She was never hospitalized.
So that was one person that was very close to me that I saw how that progression declined and with traditional medicine. In the hospital, I clearly remember, and I actually mentioned that in my book, that I had a patient who had come in for an uneasy feeling of heartache. So of course we were doing, like, oh, maybe she has a heart attack, to do all the blood tests for checking if there were any cardiac markers, did she have anything, all her tests were completely normal.
And, giving that information to a patient, you would think that would help her and make her more comfortable. But in fact, she wasn’t, she was more distraught than before because she couldn’t understand if all my tests were fine, but I am not feeling good. Like what is going on? So looking into that, when she got discharged, there was so much I could do. But that always was in the back of my mind, like, okay, there is something more going on with her and she was not the only isolated patient that I’ve heard that from.
So, looking at the whole picture those were things that made me look okay, what more could happen. So, if I ever have that opportunity to talk to them on a different one on one, like a person-on-person kind of basis, not a doctor patient relationship. You get them to open up and then you hear like, oh, wait a minute. There are other stressors going on in your life, whether it’s a relationship that’s triggering her, whether it’s her kids, it’s work. It’s a lot of times that I hear it’s usually like a work life balance. There’s something going on. It’s either both or one of them where that trigger is there and it’s constantly there. And it’s not something that you can just take an aspirin and make it go away, right?
So, your heart is very highly emotional. It has like 40,000 neurons. It’s not just a pumping machine. So, you have to treat your organs differently. I feel like you have treated it with more respect. We are a whole person, but as we are individuals, we see our organs and our body parts. So, you can’t just be, oh, I’m very stressed out today. Let me take a pill and feel my headaches gonna go away. Well, what caused that headache? You have to look into things behind it.
So those were some of the stories that led me to question the root cause behind things. And it’s amazing how many times you see the common denominator to be stresses, like your daily stresses in life. And you can’t really, of course, you can turn it off, but how do you deal with it better? It’s just about really identifying what those are and whether, if you’re comfortable to talk to somebody that can help you, if you are open-minded, and no way I’m saying like this is the go-to treatment, it’s complimentary. You are meant to go and . . . go to your regular doctor.
But this is something when the regular medications and treatments and protocols that you’re doing are not working, the chronic condition still persists and you’re still not feeling good. What do you do then? For me, it’s basically simple. Like I’m just reminding your body like the ancient ways that it already knows how to heal, just giving it a safe environment, maybe introducing it to certain sounds and frequencies that are around, but we’re not really tuning into it. And just giving that, your body, your mind, your soul, that information that I forgot from a long time ago, just reintroducing it.
And then as an individual, what does that make you feel? Do you want to explore more? I welcome that, but no way am I forcing or trying to push this onto anybody. But I feel like a lot of people, when they hear about this, they are inquisitive, they are curious to know because this is something that is very real. It’s around us all the time. A lot of Eastern medicine touches on it.
I was reading something that I think is in Japan where doctors actually prescribe trees. Like tree hugging is a real thing because in nature, like the trees, like they send out vibrations and frequencies and just bye. Don’t have to really hug it, but even if you sit around a tree and walk through a garden or a forest, you can feel it. It’s a tangible feeling, going into the ocean, like the sound, the waves, just grounding your feet. We’re walking on shoes all the time but try going barefoot on the grass and see how that feels, and going walking on the beach. It is such a healing, calming feeling that I would. Encourage everybody to just try it and just see how you feel.
And then question yourself like, what brought about that change? How do I feel different? And it’s not like woo-hoo stuff. And I’m guilty. I thought this was like woohoo medicine until I started looking into it. And research actually has been done from like the 1940’s. So it’s something new. It’s just not around as much as traditional medicine is.
Our body is very smart. It’s inherently smart.
It’s really interesting what you’re saying there, Shireen, because we feel as a “civilized”, as a civilised society or community that everything starts and ends with the modern way that we live, right? We feel that things are only discovered if they’ve been discovered recently. And what we don’t realize is that everything has already been discovered, right?
Everything’s already been discovered for every aspect of life, right? What we’re doing is, we are trying to make sense of it through the black and white lens of data points, like that’s because we’re trained as humans in modern society, that if this has some way of . . . proven or we can replicate it, that’s what science is, that’s what modern science is.
Then it is a real solution but what we don’t realize from a lot of the work that I’ve done as well, is just learning going back through scriptures going back, through the ideologies that come from the Vedas that come from ancient writings all of what we feel with what we’re discovering today, like flight, all of these other things has been around for thousands upon thousands upon thousands of years in other cyclical civilizations.
What we’re doing is we’re discovering it now. For example, if you look at a lot of them, this is just so fascinating for me. So, I have to share this with you. If you look at a lot of the discoveries in the Western world, they didn’t come about until they went in, took over India, right, then flight, then all of these other things started to come about as we have discovered this as the West. But there were already discoveries that were there in the East.
So, the reason I wanted to share that is the work that you’re doing that I feel is so important and so fascinating to me that we feel is innovative, is actually rooted in today’s ideologies as well as yesterday’s philosophies. And the one without the other doesn’t give us the full picture as humans, right? Share your thoughts on that, there’s so much to talk about.
I know. No, you’re absolutely right. A lot of times, even in current medicine, I feel like the best discoveries are discovered by accident, right? But going back to what you’re saying, absolutely. There was so much knowledge and so much, I felt, purity back in the days with our Vedic times and if you go back in all the Vedas and findings that scriptures and writings that they find now, like. It’s amazing to see, but I just feel like, you know, I often wonder, like, how did it get lost? Like, where’s that information, or why did it not transform, and why was it not consistent? So, I honestly don’t know the answer to that, but . . .
We are rediscovering what has already been discovered.
Can I give you the answer? Can I tell you what my philosophy here is? I believe that because of the caste system, the way it was in eras past, like bygone eras, because there’s four different eras as far as Hinduism, the belief system behind Hinduism which I subscribe to, the very last one, which is ‘Kalyug,’ the one we’re living in today, It’s here where although a lot of negativity is surfacing, it’s through the darkness that you can discover what’s right.
Like it’s sometimes the shadow work we do, you only know darkness exists, right? Or you only know light exists, because there’s the counterpart, the polarity of darkness, right. So, I feel that the loss, I feel it’s a Thank you for watching, and I’ll see you in the next one. Casteism had the Brahmins be the only ones that knew the scriptures. So as soon as that system got lost right now, we don’t know that it’s not being taught to regular people. So, we feel like we’re discovering something new.
But what we’re doing is we are rediscovering what was already discovered. It’s just that the reason I got lost is because the only people that knew it were the Brahmins in India, in ancient times. And it wasn’t written in those days, right? It passed. It was the spoken word that then went to the written word that then into all the other ways that we provide and consume content, right sweetheart?
So, I feel that’s the reason. And this is why I always come back to this whole ideology, and you and I have talked about this. We’re remembering what we already know from our past life, and we are rediscovering what has already been discovered. There are no new discoveries. That’s just what I believe in. And your comments there, I just feel like I need that comment before we move into the work that you are doing now at the intersection between modern medicine and ancient medicine.
Absolutely completely agree with you. I feel like that information back in the days was very privileged and like kept with a certain group of people in order to, I don’t know, not share it for whatever reason. But I definitely know now with the digital world that we’re living in, everything is so easily shared. Thank God for that. And yes, you’re right, we are remembering and rediscovering information that has been around for a long time and I always say it’s about time that this information is bought to the forefront for everybody to learn from and rediscover and remember because we are at the age of Aquarius so yes and that I mean that says a lot that’s a whole another portal.
I got to bring you on, sister. You got to come back. We have so many topics to discover and talk about. But obviously today’s discussion is just the fascinating way that you have married these two and melded these two worlds, because you saw that there wasn’t a full solution in modern medicine alone, right?
So I want to ask you this, because I feel it’s really important for people to understand where this came from for you? What did you have to perhaps unlearn in order to step into this work and be able to kind of expand the thought process behind, well, is there something else?
Because as a trained medical doctor, that’s a very, very data-driven world. As per the markers that are accepted within that industry. Talk to us a little bit about that shift for you.
Answer your question, I feel like I had to leave my identity as a trained medical doctor and everything that I had learned just to kind of put it on pause, not to, you know, discriminate against any information because it’s all valid, but just to open my mind and allow this information to come in. I mean I was, I’m not going to lie, I was skeptical coming in. I really was.
As you should be. You’re a trained medical doctor. Everything has to be proven. There needs to be data points, right? So, I get it. But the interesting thing is that there’s different data points here. And you can only know them if you do the work internally. So, share that.
So, I just think like this and this world is becoming more prominent at least where I’m at right now in South Florida. When I lived back up in the Northeast, I honestly never heard of this before. Like this was not something that people talked about yoga studios and stuff like that was around. And you never heard about sound healing and what a sound bath is.
So, I honestly had no idea. I just thought it was another like a spa treatment, something. You just go and get relaxed and that’s okay. There’s nothing wrong with that. And I think that’s how, that was my first experience. I was looking for a massage place and I was just looking online and I heard about this wonderful place in town but it was not like a traditional massage place.
It was more like a shop as well, but they had a lot of crystals and gemstones and in that spectrum. So, I tried it and I was surprised when they said, oh, well, would you like it, because normally I’ve been used to it, and I’m sure you have, you get hot stones on your hat, which is wonderful, I love it. So, I thought, okay, maybe this is something similar. No clue had no idea.
And it wasn’t, I mean, they had asked on the intake form, maybe they asked me a few questions, which I actually didn’t even like to pay any attention to. But later on, I realized that those questions yielded what stones maybe they use. And it was gemstones. And maybe that was the first time I heard some kind of a bell of some sort. And I had no clue what that was. All I, it’s what I felt, right?
From coming out of that treatment, I’m like, wow, this was more than a massage. My body feels great, but also like my mind, and like spiritually, I felt something. So, it was something tangible. So the first time I’m like, okay, it’s no big deal. It was great. But then when it kind of occurred to me, let me try that again. Like instead of going to a regular massage, I’m, like, you what, I want to try that out again and see, was that a one-time thing or is there something more to it?
So doing that a few times piqued my interest. And I went and I asked more about that. What, what was that? Like, what did you put on? It wasn’t hot stones, like, tell me what’s behind it. And oh boy, like did that open a whole world of like, wow. And I was in awe, honestly, like what do you mean? Like crystals are real, like they’re energized and they can do so much to your energetic body. And I’m like, what are you talking about? Like, where do you need to go, right?
That’s when I discovered rehab, but there’s a biofield around us that we don’t talk about in traditional medicine. And you know, I’ve always said like the missing link was as a nutrition, because they don’t teach us that in school. And I don’t understand why, because you are what you eat. So, the first thing before you’re even popping a pill, like a pharmacological pill is your food and your garden. And that is like your medicine, food is medicine, right? So, it just sparked like an interest in a whole another world, which . . . I honestly feel like I fell upon an accident, but I think I was divinely guided. I truly believe that.
Love yourself more and see where that takes you.
And honestly, that was just like a stepping stone. And they had a machine in the space, believe it or not, where you put your hand on it. First, of course, I’m going to tell you, I’m just like, okay, this is like unreal. Like this can be anything. Like, what is, what does this mean? But honestly, I put my hand on. It reads your aura. It’s an aura reading machine, which that was my first exposure to it ever. And you see it on the screen. So, I’m very visual.
And then it gives you a PDF almost report, which I was fascinated by, because I’m like you said, data driven. I need to know what does this mean? Like, okay, there’s colours, but what does it mean? And it was almost, I kid you not, it was about a 20-page report. And it went like, so deep like okay what is like this mean like the or the colour in your you know around your crown is a different colour than around your like your choppers and the chocolate’s all lined up with different colours and wow.
All I can say is wow, did that just have me I was speechless um i didn’t want to i didn’t want to show that i was beyond amazed at that point I took it home I sat with it, I looked at it, read it, analyzed it. And of course, when, you know, Googled it, looked up more into it. And right there, I think that opened all these doors for me because I was like, how do I not know about this? Like for myself, forget like, you know, other people that I talked about, talked to, but myself, like, how did I not that, like I always would, I told you . . .
We are trying with mind, body, spirit, and we’re only treating like the body, but the mind and the spirit, they’re all interconnected. And honestly, Raj, like this was that missing link for me where it was my aha moment, where I was so happy that I kind of discovered something that is such an inherent part of us that how could you totally dismiss it? And I feel like it has been dismissed.
How there are, I feel like there’s more, maybe more, orbiting machines and inventions out there that I think. I just read an article recently that now scientists have discovered that on your fingertips, they can see with different imaging, like… I was like, okay, this all makes sense, right? Yes, healers way back when we only liked they only heal with your hands. Why? Because your hands are like, divinely like there is power in them. Like there are healing modalities right within our body. And it’s about how you think what you manifest your thoughts or energy where you put out there. It’s all interconnected like healing from like your own self is powerful. It’s real.
I just remember like, anytime we injure ourselves, first we hold it with our hands. What are we doing without even knowing we’re healing ourselves? Yes, it’s fascinating. So I feel like that was where it was my aha moment. Everything changed for me. I just kept looking and diving deeper and deeper. And I found that there was a whole other world that was there for me to discover. That was the beginning of my journey and looked like where it’s brought me today.
And I want to say about three years ago and it’s constantly, I swear I’m learning new things every single day, every single hour. And it’s like, I can’t. I can’t say enough about the discovery of this, of how connecting our mind, body, spirit, the Triune that we are. And I feel like it’s something that everybody should know about. It’s not privileged information. This is us, this is humanity. I always say we’re spiritual beings having a human experience. So how can you forget that part of who we are?
We are trying with mind, body, spirit, and we’re only treating the body.
Oh, my gosh, so much to unpack there, Shireen, I want to go into the work that you do so people can truly understand it. But something just came to my mind as you were sharing that and thank you for sharing such a visceral experience that you had, it’s like you couldn’t, you know what I’m hearing you say is that you couldn’t ignore the data that was showing up within yourself, right? That’s what was going on here, right.
How can you? Like it was in my face, it’s in front of me.
And it’s so interesting because I just feel that everything just really truly does make sense if you go out there looking to find how everything’s linked. For example, you just said something there about research around the fingertips and it is having light eminence in there and which means that, the force of light is healing. We know this, right?
And it’s so interesting because when you look at the life of Jesus, this is coming to me so I’ve got to share it with you, and I know you’ll appreciate this. You look at the life of Jesus, and you know what he says right his entire philosophy. Sanatana Dharma, which is a Hindu philosophy, those 12 years that he went on his travels, there are so many data points that state that one of his visits was to India, right?
So, he did, he learned Sanatana Dharma because of his philosophy that he came back to Israel, right, and the Abrahamic philosophies and religion. Quite different from the Sanatana Dharma philosophies and religion that he went on a journey on a soul-searching journey on the journey that was divine from the divine where he wanted his son to have what you said a human experience and through the human experience he was to then teach his philosophy.
And the philosophy he taught was what, Shireen? We’ve talked about this so many times, right? And I wanna share it here for everyone who is watching, listening, and reading this. He talked about going within. He said that heaven is within. So, this went against the Abrahamic philosophies, that heaven is outside of you and that you need to be invited in. But heaven is with you, you need to find it. And this is exactly what Jesus taught, which is why everything happened the way it did.
And the miracles, the miracles we talk about. He said that miracles are not just what I can do. These miracles are what you can do in all of us. So, the touch that you were talking about, this long winded way of me sharing what happened to me when you shared that about the light that yeah the light he learned how to use what he already had divine in his spirit within the physical form of the human body. And that’s what I feel a lot of the work that you are doing now is about, is what is the physicality within us that we have not been taught that we can see how we can heal ourselves. Jesus did it! Brahma did it, we can do it.
Absolutely. I mean, the teachings are all there. It’s right there. It’s in our faces. It is just about really analyzing it and maybe reading between the lines because he did say, you are made, we are made in the image of him or in the make likeness of Him.
I mean, what does that mean? Right? Like, the problem is, is that people look at that?
Even animals like all living creatures like we’re all connected. We’re all made of the same stardust. That’s the way
I completely agree with you. I completely agree with your sweetheart. And so let’s talk about that a little bit. Let’s define your work around this, because I feel that people, you know who are, you know, will resonate to the work that you do needed the context here needed to understand where you came from. This is not where you were born in the world of woo woo. And what is woo woo? Woo woo, woo woo means and it’s just such a term I hate. Right? It’s like woo means you don’t understand it. That’s what I say. You don’t understand it, that’s what it means.
So, let’s define your work further, sweetheart. You talk about whole person healing, right? The body, the mind, the spirit. What does that actually look like in practice beyond the buzzwords? I know that again, that that’s like a whole book, we’ll talk about your book shortly as well. But if you were to share it with someone that doesn’t understand and you were too high level with it, let me ask you again, what does it actually look like in practice beyond the buzzwords to talk about whole person healing, the body, the mind and the spirit from what you’ve learned?
From what I’ve learned, people are definitely overstimulated in this world. They’re so disconnected, I feel, and I think I see it getting worse with technology. We’re living in a digital world, so that human touch is not there anymore. There’s such a disconnection. There’s so much burnout. I just feel like when you’re disconnected from true restoration, how do you bring that in?
You can meditate, of course, but a lot of people think that meditation is sitting in a room or with your legs crossed and just turning everything out and like chanting or doing whatever, which is actually not true. You can, meditation can have so many different forms. I mean, that’s great to silence the mind and do all of that in the traditional form.
But honestly, you could be listening to your favourite tunes. And what it does to you in your mind, body, and spirit. Like that feeling that you get of euphoria, of relaxation, of calmness, of happiness. Those are all different ways of actually healing with it. You’re not even really aware of it. So, it’s individualized. You can do whatever feels right to you. There’s no right or wrong way. I’m just here to basically remind you and your body. It’s a safe space just to provide the frequencies that, you know, that you can actually find around yourself. Like just going out in nature. That’s like the best therapy I can give that you don’t even have to come to me.
You don’t have to listen to any kind of frequency that brain entertainment happens where you’re basically getting your nervous system to go into the parasympathetic mode and like calm, which is gonna overcome this relaxation. But that’s basically what I’m doing. It’s nothing magical. It’s something that I think it’s available all around us, like in nature, but if you come to me, like I am discovering and sharing the world of sound where a Tibetan bowl has certain frequencies that it’s tuned into.
So, when you hear it, it actually goes into yourselves and there’s vibrating oscillations happening. Which is kind of like fine-tuning it, recalibrating it to a state of being calm and restored. That’s basically the whole gist of all the, taking out all the fancy words from it. That’s what it’s doing. And I’ve discovered from my many years of practicing and researching and also training and vibroacoustic therapy. Where certain frequencies are meant or targeted towards certain organs, even not just your brain, not just the heart, even your gut.
So, if I give you certain frequencies, say you’re stressed out, say, you’re having GI issues, like, right, so those are two different organ systems, which I would treat it differently, you don’t treat it’s not a one size fits at all. So, it’s giving your body just the frequencies that it already knows. It inherently has it. It’s just out of tune. All I’m doing is presenting this environment, making you hear it so your body’s receiving it at a cellular level. It oscillates at that level where maybe there was a discrepancy in it, it’s just recalibrating it, fine tuning it so you actually get into a deep healing data phase. It’s so fascinating, Raj, I can begin to tell you.
People need peace, people need well-being, people need happiness.
Oh, my sweetheart, like you, I’m sold on this. Like it all makes sense to me. It all makes sense to me because everything to me is about frequency, whether it’s the lower frequency, the middle frequency, the high frequency or the highest frequency, right? I’m so sold on it.
So, I wanna ask, how is quantum harmonic wellness different from what most people think of when they hear wellness today? I feel you’ve answered this, but I want people to get a succinct understanding.
So, my quantum harmonic wellness is more, I bring what I say is a physician lens to the whole modality. It’s not just like your regular wellness forward. There’s nothing wrong with that. But with my training, I can discern safety. I can personalize your treatments based on my medical knowledge, because like I said, it’s not one size fits all. The goal is to support the whole person, not just isolated symptoms.
So, you and even your siblings are not the same people, right? Yes, you share the same DNA, but your mannerisms, your etiquettes, your behaviour, your lifestyle, it all makes you an individual person. So, you coming in and like your family member coming in, It’s completely, totally different. So, I look at the whole picture. I take into account, of course, your medical history, but also your stressors, like what triggers you, what makes you happy, and your environment, like what is surrounding you, because you’re spending a lot of time probably in a particular space, whether it’s work or home.
And those, you might not even realize there’s certain things that you might be encountering on a daily basis. That might not be something that is benefiting you, it could be triggering you subconsciously that you’re not aware of. So, with my background, I am fusing all of this together. It is physician-led holistic wellness where I bring to the table all of my training. I put it together so there’s discernment, there’s safety, there’s personalization with the protocols that I offer.
Hmm, I love it. So, I want to ask you this. Maybe this is a story of self, or maybe this is a story of someone that you’ve worked with. Just so we can apply context to this for anyone that is coming to this philosophy for the first time. Can you share a transformation story where someone came in with physical symptoms? It could even be a story about yourself.
But the real breakthrough happens somewhere deeper, which in turn led to, you know, you doing kind of the unique framework of treatments that you just finished talking about. Because it’s highly customized, as you mentioned. It’s not possible to have an end result without knowing the starting point, right? Like, I totally get that. Is there an experience that you had with a client or is there an experience you can share even deep within yourself that can help us understand what’s possible?
Sure, I actually did have a client, a female, who just came in, you know, she was just having aches and pains, stress with life meeting dead ends and not really maybe flourishing, but nothing beyond that. And as we started therapy, maybe like the first session wasn’t anything too alarming or nothing like, nothing crazy came out of that. I want to say maybe the second or third session where she felt much more calm and relaxed and felt like she was in a safe space that she was able to open up.
And by asking discerning questions, we came to a point where she had a lot of trauma growing up and with a parent figure where she has only one parent, but that parent was not a positive figure in her life. So, she didn’t have that maternal relationship that I feel is very important, but having that mist in your life shows up, it manifests in different forms later on in life. And as we went through it, I think it was like around her solar plexus, that chakra that we were working on.
So, a lot of times like we store stress in organs. So, normally we feel like tightness here, tightness there, but it goes a whole further than that. Like we’re all atoms vibrating at a certain frequency. So, imagine giving your body that frequency that it’s lacking, it was so depleted that it’s like it’s nourishment. It’s like a nourishment for the soul.
So, getting that is like over a couple of sessions. I think it led to a point where there was a release and she finally was able to share a lot of personal stuff, which she literally was like, I mean, there was a lot of trauma there where she just broke down in pride for a long time. And it was I mean it was such it was so highly transformative for me to witness that.
There’s this visceral relationship that exists between the emotional being and the physical one.
But to see that transformation in her within like three sessions that she was actually able to open up and release all this stored trauma from her childhood that she wasn’t even aware of. Just having that conversation and working with her and you know picking up the different tonalities in her body like I could see like there was something going on here but without really you know going to medical cause it was just like okay I feel like there’s a discrepancy in tone your disk chakra feels sounds very depleted so let’s restore it let’s give it more of what it needs on like a vibratory level and in doing so It was like, it was profound.
I saw this person the next time and she was a different person. It was almost like her, I, in her own words, her inner child, right? Like that was traumatized, that was left behind, completely forgotten, but that’s always a part of you. And how dealing with it, how letting that surface and- actually breaking it up and like physically releasing it. I mean, I saw it was almost tangible, you know, and like that release, whether it’s crying, whether it’s screaming, I mean everybody has a different way of releasing but you do what your body calls for.
And she did it that way. That was a great success story that I’m so happy to see her restored. Like I saw the impact it had on her and on like the other sessions that followed where she was a different person. Like she had way more confidence than when she first walked in. She was able to deal with stuff head on where before maybe she was like avoiding, had an avoidant personality. It was great. Like I didn’t expect, honestly, it was more than I expected.
We’re to see, wow, like here she was, like ready to take on the world, only because she had dealt with all of that trauma stored in her body that was coming from childhood that she was not aware of. So, it’s amazing to see what people are subconsciously storing that could be from, you know, years, years ago. It’s just. It’s so transformational that it gives me so much joy to see that in a client.
Oh, my God. You know, while you were sharing that, Shireen, I have to tell you, there was moments where I felt like I was gonna cry while I was hearing this because it’s just like People need peace, people need well-being, people need happiness, people need all the things that you just shared in this one particular case. And just the fact that you’ve had this idea, this incredible idea of restoring all aspects of what makes us who we are, you know, the physicality, because there has to be a ground zero, right? You know, and what shows up in the body, right, helps you.
Because that’s what I’m hearing you say is helping you. To find. Modalities that you can help them with, you talk, you talked about Reiki here, you talked about. You know, the tonality of sound healing, right? Earlier on, you were speaking about your own personal experience with stones, right. It’s like, it’s insane what we have access to that we don’t even know what to do with it to be able to heal.
And when we see the trauma and the pain and the angst, that humanity goes through because they don’t know, because they are in the dark, because they have the knowledge, because somehow we’ve been so trained to only look one way. And if that doesn’t provide us with the solutions to our personal situation, then there’s something wrong with us, right, Shireen?
We’re mad, we’re crazy, we are all the things, because that box is defining whether we are healthy or not. What you’re doing with the work you’re doing, what I’m hearing you say, is that you are expanding that box to an infinite expansion of opportunities, depending on what it is that a person is dealing with. Share your thoughts around that. Am I getting it right, what you’re sharing?
Worse. Like just what you said, like people just want to be seen, people just wanna be heard, right? Like when you go to your doctor, I sometimes wear the white coat, like we don’t have enough time to spend with the patient. Like honestly, all I wanna do is talk to them and find out more about their life and what’s going on, because it’s not just what they’re coming in for, but what was the list of and cause that to occur.
So, I know that it’s always, it’s like, we just don’t have, I guess, enough time or the space, but all we want to do as humans is want to be seen, want to hear, want to share stories, whether it’s joy, whether it is pain or sorrow. And I just feel like just sometimes, just to quiet the mind and remind yourself that you are human. Well, you’re a spirit having a human experience, and so is the person in front of you and around you. So why not get to that level and become one? It’s all about becoming one because we are one with everything.
So that is my philosophy that I bring into this in all aspects of my life, whenever it’s possible. Sometimes it’s not, but in my mind it is, I might not be able to open my mouth and share it at that particular moment. But why are we seeing burnout? Why do we see sleep issues? Why are we seeing chronic conditions? Just because we’re missing the root cause of it.
And all I’m doing is just simply reminding people that we have the power to heal, right? We’re capable of doing it. All we need is a little bit of information like being seen, being heard, being acknowledged and just being treated with love and kindness which I feel is missing in this world today and a little goes a long way.
And if I can bring that to somebody and, and change their mood and make them more restored, more calm, more balanced, um, get them to actually learn more from it. And for their own, for their self being quiz at it, be curious, right? You have to be curious about this world. You can’t just take everything that we have, there’s information overload all the time.
You can just take it for what it is with the grain of salt. No, I’m not about that. Question everything. Don’t I’m not saying don’t believe me. Please go and look it up. Do the research. It’s all out there. It’s just forgotten and we’re just remembering and I’m just here to be like that tool, that catalyst.
And if you want to say that, just to remind you of something that we already know it’s in us. And I feel like it’s time for the world . . . I opened up to this and I’m happy that I’m able to share this guidance, this wisdom that’s been around for a long time that is all about healing and self-healing and healing the world in the process. It is a collective issue as well.
Absolutely and you just brought something to my mind that I want to share with you, Shireen. You know oftentimes when there is some sort of a physical reregulation that’s taking place right there’s um taboos around some of it which is why people don’t want to go to the doctor they don’t wanna learn more about what’s going on like maybe I’ll have a disease etc right but you know what the fascinating thing for me is is that you know and this comes back to your point, uh, that you’ve mentioned a couple of times here that this is the soul having a human experience, right?
So what’s coming to me with this conversation that you and I are having is that if the soul isn’t healed for some reason, right, and we talk about a generational soul healing and all, yes, all of that, like generational trauma and bloodline trauma and all of these things. Whether you believe it or not isn’t the point I’m making here. What I’m saying here is all of this stuff that’s locked away in our soul, if you are a believer like me, that our soul is constantly on a journey to find out more about itself, I feel that the most magnificent experience you can have to learn that is to be in the physical body form because it tells you what the trauma is. If you listen to it. It’s telling you what it is.
So, I feel that that taboo around accepting that there’s something showing up physically which is the whole work you do, right? I feel it’s really, really important for us to do because the body is born to die.
The soul is experiencing, this is how I see it. The soul experiences through the body the things that it has not healed because it’s physically showing up. So that’s what I’m hearing when you’re talking around this whole idea of nervous system regulation. Your comments.
So, the body responds to rhythm. You know? I couldn’t, like, it’s just one simple way to say it. And healing is not always about doing more. Sometimes it’s like softening yourself and not just receiving, being on the receiving end. Whether it’s information, whether it’s sound vibrations, whether it is Ayurvedic ancient wisdom. Like just quiet your mind, be open-minded. Ask questions, question everything, but be able and open to receive.
I just feel like true wellness is very, it’s deeply personal. And I just wanted to create a model of care that feels both refined, real, deeply personalized, elegant, and very individualized. And me bringing that to you, to your audience, to the community, to the world. I feel it is my greatest gift right now. It’s my purpose for being here. It’s just like accumulating all of my prior knowledge. And I’m always thirsty for knowledge. I have always been that way.
So, I’m so grateful for that curiosity of mine. I encourage others to be as curious, you know. Learning is constant, you’re always going to learn, but just be open minded to receive it. And if you get something profoundly that does shift something in you, receive it and ask more and share more. That’s all that’s what it’s all about. It’s all about loving yourself and loving others.
Oh my gosh, amen to that, sister. You know, I wanna ask you this because, the work that I do at The Open Chest Confidence Academy, the podcast focus is about, helping women bridge the gap between their competence and their confidence, right? In whatever form that is missing for you. Part of that is the discovery process. A lot of what you’re talking about here is discovering what is going on and listening to it. And then finding an expansive toolbox of opportunities to see what can help you fix it.
Sometimes it’s a cocktail, sometimes it’s just the one straight up solution. So, I wanna ask you this, why do so many high-functioning women who externally look so successful? Internally, they feel so dysregulated. What is going on, especially with those types of women? I wanna address that, because a lot of my audience, a lot of my community are those women. I wanna help them with having the pleasure of having you on.
I feel for, especially for women, I mean, we, you know, I feel like there is a disconnect, especially for women in that space, because I think we’re not trying to like, outdo the next person. I just think that we’re just, I don’t know, we’re trying to prove things to ourselves more. And maybe in doing so, we kind of probably get caught up in that world where I feel self-care gets neglected a lot of times.
And in doing so, I mean, if you’re not taking care of yourself, does that spill onto other aspects of your life? Probably. And I feel that it could start with one small, like you forgot one small neglecting something and that can add on. And I think that shows up for women differently. But at the same time, like that burnout, that disengagement, that competitiveness, Is that jealousy? I’ve been trying to actually wonder about that a lot. I was wondering if I should do more like a research article on it and see how that connects to the wider spectrum of things. But that is very interesting.
Actually, you brought that up Raj because that I do see that around a lot and I don’t know for, I mean, there’s a lot of difference with gender. Men are just taught not to express themselves, at least women do. I feel that maybe when we are in that space where it is so competitive, maybe we lose that essence of sharing that human touch of connecting, rather than seeing that the next competitor is competition.
I think that if we looked at that person as a person, as a woman, coming from the same background, okay, what are her struggles, right? We might not see what she’s bringing to the podium that day, but what was it they like, what got her there? There are so many factors. It’s like, there’s so many moving parts that I feel that if you just pause and talk to that person as a person, not by who their title is, you will get a lot out of it.
Whereas, just seeing them as this figure that they want you to see, they hide a lot of it there. And so, it’s about peeling the layers. Yeah, showing them to be seen to be heard from their essence of who they really are what made them What what’s their makeup? What brought them to this level? It wasn’t that they didn’t just wake up into the limelight, right? That was a lot of hard work and a lot of stories there that might not have been shared. It could have been you know Shrugged under the rug.
So, it was just like my client just talking to them learning, like, what are their triggers? What makes them happy? What makes them sad? Those are things I feel women in that space, maybe are not allowed to share publicly. So, it’s a lot that’s kept behind closed doors. And I feel like if you gave them a space to kind of shut that full persona behind and just come out and be more authentic, I think you would see a whole different side of them. And they might be more powerful. To share their bad struggles with other people who might be their competition, but maybe they wouldn’t see them as that anymore. They might just see them as you know what, that’s just another soul who’s in a similar journey as me. So let me see how I can help her rather than what I can do to out-compete her.
The body knows how to heal itself.
You know, I would be so interested in any research that you do around this piece, because as a woman yourself, as you know, we have been exposed to all of the above, right? Like we’ve at some point also been versions of, you know that woman, right. I would love to see the work that you do around that as well because it is a deeper layered prong than it is for men, because society and religion and culture have predominantly been made for men by men, right?
So how do you fit in the essence of the other type of being as a female, right, because female is like, you know, I go, I always go back to, you like when you look at Shiv Shakti, right? Shakti is energy, right. Shiv is stillness and knowledge, but without movement and the fire and the energy of Shakti, this just stays still and quiet, like it requires it. So, have we created a world without Shakti? That perhaps all of us ‘Shaktis’ as women are trying to find our way in a place that we aren’t. So, what is the work around that we need to do.
I feel it starts with the nervous system dysregulation. So, I want to ask you this, again, this is something that you and I could deep dive forever, right? But to bring it back and hone it back into the work that you do, how does nervous system dysregulation show up in everyday life in ways people don’t even realize? So, we can at the very peripheral level, at least, invite our community here to start looking into this at the very lowest level of entry.
So, the vagus nerve is actually like the longest running nerve and it is like your parasympathetic but it connects a lot of different organs in your body and it’s amazing how if you just try to calm your vagus nerves, what the profound effects of that are. So if I were to bring a Tibetan bowl around you and just give you that frequency. It’s literally going into your vagus nerve. It starts to oscillate and it transforms those sound frequencies into your different organs. Like that’s the science behind it.
The same goes for tuning forks. Like, I mean, being a neurologist, like we use tuning first for different reasons, but I had no idea the spectrum of other things that it can be used for. There’s weighted and there’s non-weighted, but they all have specific frequencies. I mean, I have one of them, it’s my favourite. It’s 128 Hertz and I’ve seen the profound effects that it has on you. I mean I would love it when I see you and offer you a session, just so you can see how little it takes for you to get from beta state to theta and be much more relaxed.
And honestly, I’ve had clients including my family members, like they pass out, they’re gone, they are sleeping. Like within- That would be me. That would me. But that’s where your body needs to get into that brainwave state in order for healing to occur. And it’s not when you go to sleep at night, you can have restored moments throughout the day. Why not? Right. But to answer your question, just stimulating that. But on a daily basis, there’s so much noise, right, that you’re actually doing the opposite. It’s triggering your sympathetic response. So, you’re almost always in fight or flight response, the cortisol levels are high, your stressful hormones are high. And that’s why I see a lot of people having sleep issues.
It’s because of this dysregulation. So, it’s very easy to take melatonin, it’s easy to, you know, take sleeping pills, but I would tell you not to do that and just try a different modality where you’re not introducing chemicals into your body because your body is not looking for it. It’s just to harmonize, it’s just about harmony.
And just even you say that again. Can you say that again?
Yes, it is all about harmonizing like your body. It’s just giving your state of being like having harmony. It is just bringing harmony into your life. And I’m telling you, I promise you, it’s going to cause you so much release of stress. I’m not promising like, Oh, you’re gonna have a stress-free life. But just even within a half an hour to see somebody come in all stressed out, have them like on your or on their table and their bed, wherever is comfortable, get them in from that high stress frequency into going into theta, where they’re very relaxed, they’re, they sleep, they pass out for a few minutes until I bring them back.
And you wake up and you see, you can visibly see the difference and then to hear the feedback from the client about how restored they feel, how stress-free they feel within that small session is very rewarding to me. And it’s not, I’m not saying don’t believe it, experience it, experience it for yourself. Listen to it, I know you can go on YouTube and listen to different frequencies, whether it’s for, excuse me. Whether it’s for deep sleep or just, you know, even guided meditations are great for that. If you infuse it with certain frequencies that will allow your body to go into a deeper, calmer theta brainwave.
So, this is, there’s science behind it. It is proven that everything that I do is evidence-based. It’s all about getting your body into a parasympathetic, relaxed state of mind.
Healing is not always about doing more. Sometimes it’s like softening yourself and receiving.
Absolutely. You just brought something to my thought process because I’m in that phase. Menopausal women, talk to me, sister. We’ve got all of the above, the inflammation. Because this is all part of it, as you rightfully mentioned, is the trauma and the stress on all the other things, spiritually. Experientially that we’ve gone through.
But then there is the biological transformation and changes that factor in as well, where you can’t sleep, you can, you know, you’ve got inflammation, everything hurts, short temperedness, foggy brain, all of these things that we go through in menopause. I feel that everything that you’re sharing here in terms of the work you do would be times 10 benefit to menopausal women. Talk to me, sister.
You actually just planted the seed for my next protocol that I’m developing. Oh my God! Thank you for reminding me. Yes, I have had, but they don’t come to me by saying it’s the menopausal symptoms that they’re trying to repair or heal. It’s what I see is the stress, the sleep issues, the burning out feeling, just the console brain fog even. For me, I’m actually planning on developing a personalized protocol just for menopausal women, but I feel that there’s not a lot out there, right? Like, what can you do?
I mean, how do you restore sleep well? How can you find balance in just navigating through daily life when you’re having these experiential issues constantly happening? It’s not something that comes. In the morning or at night, you’re experiencing this all the time, the hot flashes, you know, certain things might trigger you, which may not have been like a trigger to you before.
So, all of that, I feel that I think I’m going to devise certain protocols for it, because there are certain frequencies that are intended for maybe not to the hot flashes, but to cause more relaxation maybe. These women need to be more experiencing theta wave sleeps so that their body can heal, so that the triggers of hot flashes are minimized. And just feeling more balanced and feeling in more control during that process is highly beneficial. Is that where you’re feeling or is it that you feel like it’s lacking?
Yeah, all of the above every single thing that you just mentioned there. So, folks, if you are watching, listening or reading this, Dr. Shireen Fernandez is going to be putting together a modality and let me know if I am putting words in your mouth, modalities specifically for high performing women. Yes. And then for menopausal women. It’s huge what we deal with. It’s like adding a whole other layer on top of the layers of being human already in the world that we currently reside in, right?
A lot to navigate, you know, without giving guidance or something that, you know, maybe you can do for yourselves on a daily basis. Are you doing anything like, are doing more like say yoga, more meditation? Because I know that is something that you do anyway. Are you introducing that into your life more?
I am, sweetheart. What I’m doing is protecting my auric field. I go through the reiki healings of my body whenever I feel certain things going on. Like, right now, I’ve got a lot of solar plex, plexus and sacral challenges going on, I know where it’s coming from, from a spiritual perspective. But there’s also the physiological perspective of being in menopause. Which is also factoring into that as well. So, I do focus a lot more on the energy healing around that part of my body, even in terms of, you know, the meditation piece.
Meditation for me is a flow. Sometimes it requires silence. Other times it requires, because you need the silence in order to hear the questions that you need to hear for yourself. But other times it’s things will come in to disrupt the silence because it’s only in silence do we listen to the things that we ordinarily ignore, right? Am I right? Yeah, so a lot of this, and physically, like I’m doing Tai Chi, right, because I can’t do things that force my body into all kinds of physical exertion. It doesn’t resonate with my spirit. I feel like I am off. I’m not an aerobics person. I won’t do all of the high energy stuff. It doesn’t resonate.
So, you’re forcing yourself out of the norm.
Yeah, I can’t do it. I have to do things that I feel are more lying together, like they’re working together with me. So, and it’s interesting, should we not like I don’t know if this is with you. But the more I open the layers of my spiritual understanding, the more symptoms come about. It’s almost like they say, finally, you’re hearing me, I’m coming at you, Raj. Right, deal with this next one. And I feel like that’s been happening a lot for me over the last couple of years.
Okay, which is actually not a bad thing, because think about it as suppressed, it’s been suppressed for a long time. And now you’re allowing it by presenting it with certain things, whatever that is for you and your body, for it to surface. And you have to release, think about it has to surface and release. It’s uncomfortable in the beginning, but it needs to be released. And then you’re going to feel the aftereffects. Welcome it with open arms. Allow yourself to be aligned in that process and allow it to naturally occur.
You know what, I need to come and have sessions with you. For people who are really intrigued by this, who really resonate towards this, or maybe simply curious, how can they book sessions with you? Where are you? What’s the process? Can we just get into that quickly?
Sure. So, my whole philosophy, it’s a concierge model, because I believe, and so coming to an office or waiting room and doing all of that, you experience that, sure, you have that great experience. But then guess what, you’re going back home to wherever that is your, it could be your home that could be triggering you, right? So, I figured out when I was going to people’s homes, I saw the best results happening that way. So, I love it.
So, I just decided not to have a place where they come to me, where, okay, this is not your, you know, it could be your haven, but then you’re going back to something else. I want this to be at your comfort level where your comfort zone is, wherever that is. So, for me, I come to you. So, I’m based out of South Florida. I do Sarasota right now in the Naples area, but I’m also available with Zoom sessions worldwide. Because this is something that actually can sound travels.
So, I can give you a sound session that I’m happy to offer to you, Raj, over our next Zoom session before I physically see you next month. I cannot wait, sweetheart. I hope you can experience this over in our digital world, because thank God for this, I don’t have to be physically in front of you, because I can still give you the healing sounds that you need. So yes, I’m available online.
How do they get hold of you? Yeah, website, tell us how they can connect with you and book a session, whether it be the concierge physically in their space, or whether it be virtually online. Yeah, talk to us about that.
Yes, you can go to my website. It’s quantumharmonicwellness.com. And it’s very informative. There’s a lot of information out there. I’ve written a lot of journals as well. But you can book a session and discovery session with me there, whether it’s in person or virtual.
And I also wrote my—it’s my second book, but it’s my first book and the whole Oregon intelligence series where I’m diving deep into you know, going through each organ of your body and looking at it with an Ayurvedic lens and discovering many things that, you know was not in my medical school book, but combining that aspect with the Ayurveda wisdom and putting it all together. So I’m excited to share that with you guys.
We are spiritual beings having a human experience.
So, the book, folks, is called The Heart Intelligence Code, Cardiovascular Wisdom, Ancient Secrets to Modern Heart Health. Tell us a bit more about what people should expect from this book, which by the way, is available everywhere books are sold. Share a little bit about what people should accept from this.
So, expect that you’re going to learn about your heart and not how we think of it as a pump. It’s been pumping since we were conceived till we take our last breath. So, it’s an immense organ. It has 40,000 neurons. So, it can actually think on its own. It receives signals more than it gives out or vice versa in both actually. But it’s how we neglect to look at it as, and I wanna call it almost like an own entity.
The heart is very powerful, but it’s also about giving it the right treatment, the right care, the right attention by taking care of it so you don’t get to a state where you are making it prone to disease. We don’t want you to get to that chronic disease state where now, heart attacks happen where it’s overloaded with stress. So, I just dive more into that and basically tell you preventative methods of how to take care of it on a daily basis, because it listens to you. We just don’t listen to it.
I need this book, I’m gonna buy the book because I wanna support you. And then when we see each other next, I would be honoured if you would sign it for me. Of course, I would love to. So, this is book one of a series of books. Talk to us about why you decided to do a series. My understanding would be it’s so deeply complex that in order to give it justice, dedicating one theme per book is the best way. And I’m assuming that you’re going to build upon each book. Am I putting words in your mouth?
No, you’re absolutely right. Like we said, we are a whole body, but like just in that in itself, we’re mind, body, spirit, that makes up our, our beautiful presence. So, I just feel that each organ needs its own dedication. Like we can’t just assume that, okay, your heart is it, or your brain is it? No, your gut and your spleen and your kidneys, they all are functioning in unison. I feel like we don’t pay any attention to it unless and until something goes wrong.
My whole philosophy is don’t let it get there. Treat it, give it love and attention, pay attention to it because they are talking to you. We just don’t, we don’t listen. We don’t listen as humans. We don’t listen as individuals. But when you actually tune in and go within, this is all about the whole thing about going within. And I’m going within not just to your body as a whole, you’re going within each organ. Identifying what it’s doing for you on a daily basis, giving it the attention that I feel that it truly deserves.
Like, we overlook this all the time, but when you start paying attention to it one organ at a time, it’s getting that love and that attention that it so desperately needs. And I’m just bringing that to the forefront and just planting that seed in everybody’s mind to hopefully look at it differently from now on.
Oh my God, I love it. I cannot wait to dive in, sweetheart, knowing how your brain works outside of every single box. And I can’t wait to dive into this book, folks. Just make sure that you go and check it out. It will be in the caption, like the name of the book, so you can go search for it by Dr. Shireen Fernandez.
Shireen, I want to ask you, what kind of impact would you like to accomplish with the work that you’re doing in this space. Let’s put it all out there. Let’s encapsulate it all.
What I would like is for people to just take out what you get from it and be open-minded. Be open to receive, be open to be able to discern and mostly self-care. I can’t emphasize enough how we think it’s being selfish, but it’s really not. I call it selfless. And I feel like we’re not.
You know, a mutual friend of ours, Shireen, coined a word ‘self-ful’. Do you remember?
Yes, yes.
That’s the word.
That’s the words, ‘self-ful’, selfless, it’s all the same. But you know, as individuals, if we take care of ourselves, we’re not pouring out of an empty cup. And I think that really goes a long way. It’s so simple, yet it’s so profound. And they feel it’s so overlooked. And it’s this all that’s all my messages is just take care of yourselves as people, as individuals. And that way we will be living in a much more beautiful world together in unison with the same message going out to everybody is just it’s love, self-love and love for others.
True healing begins when… You love yourself.
100%—oh my god couldn’t have said it better myself sweetheart like I feel there’s so much that we haven’t talked about that I feel that i need to bring you back on for and I’m going to be very mindful based off of everything we talked about today what are the missing pieces, like perhaps you know guys out there if there’s a question I’d love to be able to compile a whole bunch of questions and have Shireen come back on where we’re literally just answering all those questions. I think that would be a really cool thing to do. Before we close out, Shireen, I want to do a cute little rapid fire with you where you finish the sentence. Are you game for that?
I’m game.
Ok, let’s do this.
Confidence is…
Being mindful.
True healing begins when…
You love yourself.
The most overlooked factor in wellness is…
Self-healing.
If your nervous system could speak, it would say . . .
Please help me.
One habit every woman should adopt immediately is . . .
Sleep 8 hours a day or more.
Oh, my God, do I know that about you? Okay, folks, I have to share this. I have to share this BTS about this lady who I’ve known for the last 18 years. We’ve travelled together in many different places and had wonderful experiences. And a lot of what binds us is conversations like this, is that we just dive right in because we have a soul connection from many other lifetimes where we have been asking these questions.
And we are constantly developing a deeper understanding of what is that exchange that we need to get from each other as humans. And that’s the piece I feel is also missing another episode. Yeah, just like that. So, what I want you to know is what I want to share regarding this, this lady is, it doesn’t matter who’s knocking on that door, what is going on, the world could be ending. But this lady will always get in her 8 to 10 hours of undisturbed sleep.
Yes, that hasn’t changed but now I just added on—you know remember I—my music so now my music has changed. I think you’ll find the white noise that I listen to is much more gentler than the chirping bird or the ocean waves but now the sleep mask is great for me. Now I have to have my satin sleep mask on. I’ll get you one too.
Yeah, I would love that, sweetheart.
So, we’ll have to share notes on our white noise sleeping patterns because I listen ever so quietly and I have been for the last, since 2015. I listen quietly every night, but I don’t really listen to it. It’s ever so quiet on, so I don’t hear it, but I know my spiritual being hears it and is impacted with it. And that is a certain frequency and tonality of the word.
I love that. You got to share that one. Well, we’re going to see each other soon, so I cannot wait for that. Any final words, anything you want to leave everyone with, perhaps something I haven’t asked you. What would that be so we can close off?
I just want to say that true wellness is a very deeply personal concept, and I just want people to embrace that concept, whatever that is for you, you know, at this point in your life, with faith and religion and all your beliefs, just put that aside for a moment and just ask yourself, like, what does wellness mean to you?
And how do you self-love and take care of yourself? And whatever you get the answers, I just, I would invite everybody to ponder on that more and ask more and love yourself more and see what that takes you and welcome that journey because it’s a beautiful, beautiful journey.
Once again, how can people book a session with you and where can they hang out with you on social media or perhaps a newsletter that you may have?
So, I would welcome everybody to go onto my website. It’s quantumharmonicwellness.com and there is a newsletter that you can subscribe to right there. You can also book a session with me over there and learn all about the different modalities that I offer. There’s a lot of great articles in my journal and at my wellness atelier.
So please, check it out and see what you get out of it. And I would welcome lots of feedback. And I’m here for anybody that wants to chat with me further. My social media is you can find me on Instagram @QuantamHarmonicWellness. Um, I have a personal page, but I think it is private right now. But you can go to my website, it’s a world of knowledge out there.
Absolutely. Oh my gosh. What an absolute pleasure. I feel blessed and honoured to have you spend this last hour and a half with me and my beautiful community of women and men. We have a lot of men that allyship around the work that we do here as well Shireen. And I know that there’s going to be a lot of questions.
Please guys, I encourage you, put questions in the comments. I’d love to argument them and bring Dr. Shireen Fernandez back on to answer questions specifically for you. I’ve asked her the questions that I felt more aligned with what I feel my community would love. But I know that we’ve only just scratched the surface of this.
There’s so much more that we can do. I’d love to have you back on my darling. And one of our live in person panel discussion networking events for The Open Chest Confidence Academy. I need you to come on. I need to talk a little bit more about, you know, this way of journeying through life. I would be honoured.
I would be honoured. It would be an honour and privilege. But thank you so much for having me on today. I’m so happy we got a chance to do this, and I was able to share just a little tiny bit of my knowledge that I’ve acquired in this tiny bit, sister. No, it’s a wonderful journey called life. But we’re all in it together and I love you and I love your show and I’m just so honoured. So, thank you Thank you so much for having me on. Giving me this opportunity to share.
Oh my gosh, sweetheart, thank you so much. It’s been such an honour and a pleasure. And I know that everybody is just gonna, I feel like it’ll open a can of worms that needs to be opened, right? And instead of worms coming out, it’s gonna be floating butterflies.
Yes, absolutely. Love it. Love you, butterflies. Thank you, later.
Oh my god, I love it. Thank you so much, my darling. I’ll see you next time.
Yes, thank you.
